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47a

Étude de Bava Metzia 47a

Étude de la Guémara 47a

Guémara
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : And if the sum of money is one-sixth lower than the value of the item, the seller of the item has a claim of exploitation against the buyer, who must pay the difference to the seller.
וְיֵשׁ לוֹ עָלָיו אוֹנָאָה.
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : The Gemara elaborates: The buyer acquires the item even though he did not pull it, because since the seller is not particular about the sum, the buyer acquired the item, as it is similar to a transaction effected by means of exchange. And the seller has a claim of exploitation against the buyer because the buyer said to him: Sell me your item for these coins. The use of the language of sale indicates that it will be for an acceptable price. Rav Abba says that Rav Huna says that if the buyer said: Sell me your item for these coins, the buyer acquired the item; and the seller of the item has no claim of exploitation against the buyer, as it is a full-fledged transaction effected by means of exchange.
קָנָה – אַף עַל גַּב דְּלָא מָשַׁךְ, דְּכֵיוָן דְּלָא קָפֵיד – קָנָה, דְּכִי חֲלִיפִין דָּמֵי. וְיֵשׁ לוֹ עָלָיו אוֹנָאָה – דִּ״מְכוֹר לִי בְּאֵלּוּ״ קָאָמַר לֵיהּ. רַב אַבָּא אָמַר רַב הוּנָא: ״מְכוֹר לִי בְּאֵלּוּ״ – קָנָה, וְאֵין לוֹ עָלָיו אוֹנָאָה.
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : The Gemara analyzes these halakhot: It is obvious that in a case where there is a sale of an item for money and the seller is not particular about the sum, we say that the buyer acquires the item immediately upon receiving the money, as it is similar to a transaction effected by means of exchange. But if it is a transaction effected by means of exchange and one of the parties is particular that the value of the items is equal, what is the halakha? Is its legal status that of a sale, or that of a transaction effected by means of exchange?
פְּשִׁיטָא: דָּמִים וְאֵין מַקְפִּיד עֲלֵיהֶן – הָא קָאָמְרִינַן דְּקָנֵי, דְּכַחֲלִיפִין דָּמוּ. חֲלִיפִין וּמַקְפִּיד עֲלֵיהֶן, מַאי?
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : Rav Adda bar Ahava says: Come and hear a resolution to the dilemma from a baraita: There is a case where one was grasping his cow and standing in place, and another came and said to him: Why is your cow standing here? The owner of the cow replied: I need a donkey, and I hope to exchange this cow for one. The other person said: I have a donkey that I can give you; for how much are you selling your cow? The owner of the cow responded: I am selling it for such and such a price. He then said: For how much are you selling your donkey? The owner of the donkey responded: I am selling it for such and such a price.
אָמַר רַב אַדָּא בַּר אַהֲבָה, תָּא שְׁמַע: הֲרֵי שֶׁהָיָה תּוֹפֵשׂ פָּרָתוֹ וְעוֹמֵד, וּבָא חֲבֵירוֹ וְאָמַר לוֹ: פָּרָתְךָ לָמָּה? לַחֲמוֹר אֲנִי צָרִיךְ. יֵשׁ לִי חֲמוֹר שֶׁאֲנִי נוֹתֵן לְךָ. פָּרָתְךָ בְּכַמָּה? בְּכָךְ וְכָךְ. חֲמוֹרְךָ בְּכַמָּה? בְּכָךְ וְכָךְ.
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : If, after this discussion, the owner of the donkey pulled the cow, but the owner of the cow did not manage to pull the donkey before the donkey died, the owner of the donkey did not acquire the cow, even though ostensibly this was a transaction effected by means of exchange, which is typically complete once one of the parties pulls the item he is acquiring.
מָשַׁךְ בַּעַל הַחֲמוֹר אֶת הַפָּרָה, וְלֹא הִסְפִּיק בַּעַל הַפָּרָה לִמְשׁוֹךְ אֶת הַחֲמוֹר עַד שֶׁמֵּת הַחֲמוֹר – לֹא קָנָה בַּעַל הַחֲמוֹר אֶת הַפָּרָה.
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : The Gemara suggests: Learn from it that in a case where there is a transaction effected by means of exchange and one of the parties is particular that the value of the items is equal, he does not acquire the item immediately. In contrast to the standard case of exchange, the owners of the cow and donkey assessed the value of the animals before the transaction. Since they are particular about the price, the acquisition is not completed until each pulls the item he is acquiring.
שְׁמַע מִינַּהּ: חֲלִיפִין וּמַקְפִּיד עֲלֵיהֶן – לֹא קָנָה.
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : Rava said: Is that to say that in a standard case of exchange we are dealing with fools, who are not particular about the value of the items that they are acquiring? Rather, in every case of exchange, the parties are particular about the value of the items, and when one party pulls an item the other party acquires the other item immediately and pays for it later. And with what are we dealing here? The case in the baraita is where one party said to the other party: Let us exchange a donkey for a cow and a lamb, and the owner of the donkey pulled the cow and did not yet pull the lamb, as in that case he has not performed a proper act of pulling.
אָמַר רָבָא: אַטּוּ חֲלִיפִין בְּשׁוּפְטָנֵי עָסְקִינַן, דְּלָא קָפְדִי? אֶלָּא כׇּל חֲלִיפִין מִיקְפָּד קָפְדִי וְקָנָה. וְהָכָא בְּמַאי עָסְקִינַן – דַּאֲמַר לֵיהּ: חֲמוֹר בְּפָרָה וְטָלֶה, וּמָשַׁךְ אֶת הַפָּרָה וַעֲדַיִין לֹא מָשַׁךְ אֶת הַטָּלֶה, דְּלָא הָוֵה לֵיהּ מְשִׁיכָה מַעַלְיָא.
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : The Master, Rav Huna, said above that if one said to another: Sell me your item for these coins, the buyer acquired the article, and if the sum of money is one-sixth lower than the value of the item, the seller of the item has a claim of exploitation against the buyer. The Gemara suggests: Let us say based on that halakha that Rav Huna holds that a coin can be an item used to effect exchange.
אָמַר מָר: ״מְכוֹר לִי בְּאֵלּוּ״ – קָנָה, וְיֵשׁ לוֹ עָלָיו אוֹנָאָה. לֵימָא סָבַר רַב הוּנָא מַטְבֵּעַ נַעֲשֶׂה חֲלִיפִין?
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : The Gemara rejects this suggestion: No, Rav Huna holds in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Yoḥanan, who says: By Torah law money effects acquisition. And for what reason did the Sages say that pulling acquires an item and money does not? This is a rabbinic decree lest the seller say to the buyer after receiving the money: Your wheat was burned in the upper story. And it is only with regard to a common matter that the Sages issued a decree, but with regard to an uncommon matter the Sages did not issue a decree. Therefore, in this case there is no decree, and the transaction is governed by Torah law. Mar Huna, son of Rav Naḥman, said to Rav Ashi: You teach this halakha in that manner; we teach it in this manner, not by inference but as an explicit ruling: And likewise, Rav Huna said: Money cannot be the item used to effect a transaction by means of exchange.
לָא, רַב הוּנָא סָבַר לַהּ כְּרַבִּי יוֹחָנָן דְּאָמַר: דְּבַר תּוֹרָה מָעוֹת קוֹנוֹת. וּמִפְּנֵי מָה אָמְרוּ מְשִׁיכָה קוֹנָה – גְּזֵירָה שֶׁמָּא יֹאמַר לוֹ נִשְׂרְפוּ חִטֶּיךָ בַּעֲלִיָּיה. מִלְּתָא דִּשְׁכִיחָא – גְּזַרוּ בַּהּ רַבָּנַן, וּמִלְּתָא דְּלָא שְׁכִיחָא – לָא גְּזַרוּ בַּהּ רַבָּנַן. אֲמַר לֵיהּ מָר הוּנָא בְּרֵיהּ דְּרַב נַחְמָן לְרַב אָשֵׁי: אַתּוּן, הָכִי מַתְנִיתוּ לַהּ, אֲנַן הָכִי מַתְנֵינַן לַהּ: וְכֵן אָמַר רַב הוּנָא, אֵין מַטְבֵּעַ נַעֲשֶׂה חֲלִיפִין.
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : § Above, the Gemara mentioned a form of exchange in which there are not two items of equal value being exchanged, but rather one person attempts to transfer possession of his item to the buyer by means of a symbolic exchange involving, e.g., a cloth. With regard to that symbolic transaction, the Gemara asks: With what vessel does one acquire the item in question, i.e., whose vessel is used in order to effect this symbolic transaction?
בַּמֶּה קוֹנִין?
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : Rav says: One effects the transaction with the vessels of the one acquiring the item, who effects the transaction by giving the vessels to the owner of the item. The moment that the owner pulls the vessel into his possession, the transaction is complete and ownership of the item in question is transferred to his counterpart. Rav explains that the one acquiring the item is amenable to having the one transferring ownership of the item acquire his vessel, so that he will resolve to transfer ownership to him. And Levi says: One effects the transaction by having the one acquiring the item pull the vessels of the one transferring ownership, as we seek to explain below.
רַב אָמַר: בְּכִלְיוֹ שֶׁל קוֹנֶה. דְּנִיחָא לֵיהּ לְקוֹנֶה דְּלֶהֱוֵי מַקְנֶה קוֹנֶה, כִּי הֵיכִי דְּלִגְמַר וְלַקְנֵי לֵיהּ. וְלֵוִי אָמַר: בְּכִלְיוֹ שֶׁל מַקְנֶה, כִּדְבָעֵינַן לְמֵימַר לְקַמַּן.
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : Rav Huna from Diskarta said to Rava: But according to Levi, who says that one effects the transaction with the vessels of the one transferring ownership, there is a difficulty. In a case where one acquires land by means of symbolic exchange where the item used is a cloak, it turns out that he is acquiring land by means of a cloak. If so, this is a case of property that is guaranteed, i.e., land, and it is acquired with movable property that is not guaranteed, by means of a transaction performed on the latter. And we learned the opposite in a mishna (Kiddushin 26a): Property that is not guaranteed is acquired with property that is guaranteed, i.e., land, by means of a transaction performed on the latter.
אֲמַר לֵיהּ רַב הוּנָא מִדִּסְקַרְתָּא לְרָבָא: וּלְלֵוִי, דְּאָמַר בְּכִלְיוֹ שֶׁל מַקְנֶה, הָא קָא קָנֵי אַרְעָא אַגַּב גְּלִימָא. אִם כֵּן, הָווּ לֵיהּ נְכָסִים שֶׁיֵּשׁ לָהֶן אַחְרָיוּת וְנִקְנִין עִם נְכָסִים שֶׁאֵין לָהֶן אַחְרָיוּת. וַאֲנַן אִיפְּכָא תְּנַן: נְכָסִים שֶׁאֵין לָהֶן אַחְרָיוּת נִקְנִין עִם נְכָסִים שֶׁיֵּשׁ לָהֶן אַחְרָיוּת!
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