Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : And Levi taught similarly in a baraita: If a woman examined herself on the seventh day of menstruation and found herself to be impure, and she did not perform the examination to confirm her transition from ritual impurity to ritual purity, and after several days she examined herself, whether she examined herself and found herself to be ritually pure or whether she examined herself and found herself to be ritually impure, she is an uncertain greater zava.
וְכֵן תָּנֵי לֵוִי בְּמַתְנִיתָא: אַחַר הַיָּמִים, בֵּין בָּדְקָה וּמָצְאָה טְהוֹרָה בֵּין בָּדְקָה וּמָצְאָה טְמֵאָה — הֲרֵי זוֹ סְפֵק זָבָה.
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : § The mishna teaches: But she transmits ritual impurity to the ritually pure items that she handled before the examination in which she found blood for a twenty-four-hour period. The Gemara suggests: Let us say that it is a conclusive refutation of the opinion of Rava, as Rava said, with regard to the statement in the mishna on 38b that a woman has a presumptive status of ritual purity during the eleven days of potential ziva: This serves to say that a woman does not transmit ritual impurity for a twenty-four-hour period before experiencing bleeding during her days of ziva.
וּמְטַמְּאָה מֵעֵת לְעֵת. לֵימָא תִּהְוֵי תְּיוּבְתָּא דְּרָבָא! דְּאָמַר רָבָא: לוֹמַר שֶׁאֵין הָאִשָּׁה מְטַמְּאָה מֵעֵת לְעֵת בְּתוֹךְ יְמֵי זִיבָתָהּ!
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : The Gemara asks: But didn’t the Gemara already cite a conclusive refutation of the opinion of Rava one time, on 39a? The Gemara explains that this is what we are saying: Let us say that there is a conclusive refutation of the opinion of Rava from this mishna as well.
וְלָאו אוֹתְבִינֵּיהּ לְרָבָא חֲדָא זִימְנָא! הָכִי קָאָמְרִינַן: לֵימָא תִּהְוֵי תְּיוּבְתָּא דְּרָבָא נָמֵי מֵהָא!
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : The Gemara responds that Rava could have said to you that when the mishna teaches: She transmits ritual impurity for a twenty-four-hour period, it is referring to the beginning of our chapter. Specifically, it is speaking of the mishna on 64b, which discusses the case of a young woman who saw menstrual blood before marriage while she was still in her father’s house. According to Beit Hillel she may engage in intercourse only the first night, during which the blood is considered the blood from the torn hymen rather than the blood of menstruation. This mishna is teaching that from that point onward, when she experiences bleeding she renders items impure retroactively for a twenty-four-hour period, like other women.
אָמַר לָךְ רָבָא: כִּי קָתָנֵי ״מְטַמְּאָה מֵעֵת לְעֵת״ — אַרֵישׁ פִּרְקִין קָאֵי, אַרָאֲתָה וְעוֹדָהּ בְּבֵית אָבִיהָ.
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : The Gemara explains that this ruling is necessary, as it might enter your mind to say that since her cycle of menstruation and ziva is interrupted by days when any blood she discharges is considered to be ritually pure, she now reverts back as though it is considered like the beginning of her days of menstruation, and she does not transmit ritual impurity retroactively for a twenty-four-hour period. Therefore, this mishna teaches us that she does transmit impurity retroactively.
סָלְקָא דַעְתָּךְ אָמֵינָא, כֵּיוָן דְּמַפְסְקִי לְהוּ יָמִים טְהוֹרִין, כִּתְחִלַּת נִדָּתָהּ דָּמְיָא, וְלֹא תְּטַמֵּא מֵעֵת לְעֵת, קָא מַשְׁמַע לַן.
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : § The mishna teaches: And if she has a fixed menstrual cycle on the day that she examined herself and found blood, her time is sufficient and she does not transmit impurity retroactively. The Gemara asks: Shall we say that this is a conclusive refutation of the opinion of Rav Huna bar Ḥiyya, with regard to the ruling he says that Shmuel says? As Rav Huna bar Ḥiyya says that Shmuel says, with regard to the mishna on 38b that teaches that a woman has a presumptive status of ritual purity during the eleven days of potential ziva: This serves to say that a woman does not establish a fixed menstrual cycle during her days of ziva.
אִם יֵשׁ לָהּ וֶסֶת. נֵימָא תִּהְוֵי תְּיוּבְתָּא דְּרַב הוּנָא בַּר חִיָּיא אָמַר שְׁמוּאֵל, דְּאָמַר רַב הוּנָא בַּר חִיָּיא אָמַר שְׁמוּאֵל, לוֹמַר שֶׁאֵין הָאִשָּׁה קוֹבַעַת לָהּ וֶסֶת בִּימֵי זִיבָתָהּ.
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : The Gemara answers that Rav Huna bar Ḥiyya could have said to you: When we say that a woman does not establish a fixed menstrual cycle during her days of ziva, we meant this only as a leniency, that she does not require three times to uproot any such cycle. Rather, she uproots it after one time when she does not experience bleeding in accordance with that cycle. As we say that her menstrual blood is removed during her days of ziva, and she is unlikely to discharge menstrual blood during that time. And since her blood is removed, if she established a fixed menstrual cycle it is sufficient for her to be deemed impure from the hour that she saw the menstrual flow. There is no decree of retroactive impurity on items that she previously touched due to the concern that the blood flow might have started earlier.
אָמַר לְךָ רַב הוּנָא בַּר חִיָּיא: כִּי אָמְרִינַן אֵין אִשָּׁה קוֹבַעַת לָהּ וֶסֶת בִּימֵי זִיבָתָהּ, דְּלָא בָּעֲיָא תְּלָתָא זִימְנֵי לְמִיעְקַר, דְּאָמְרִינַן דָּמֶיהָ מְסוּלָּקִין, וְכֵיוָן דְּדָמֶיהָ מְסוּלָּקִין — דַּיָּהּ שְׁעָתָהּ.
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : § The mishna teaches that Rabbi Yehuda says: With regard to any woman who did not perform the examination indicating her transition from ritual impurity to ritual purity on the seventh day from minḥa time onward, even if she performed an examination and found no blood that morning, the presumptive status of that woman is one of ritual impurity. It is taught in a baraita that the Rabbis said to Rabbi Yehuda: If the halakha had been that a woman who will immerse must keep her hands placed in her eyes, a euphemism for her vagina, for the entire twilight period, what you say is fine. It would be reasonable to assume that since she did not examine herself at the end of the day she has a presumptive status of ritual impurity.
רַבִּי יְהוּדָה אוֹמֵר. תַּנְיָא, אָמְרוּ לוֹ לְרַבִּי יְהוּדָה: אִלְמָלֵי יָדֶיהָ מוּנָּחוֹת בְּעֵינֶיהָ כׇּל בֵּין הַשְּׁמָשׁוֹת — יָפֶה אַתָּה אוֹמֵר.
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : But now that you say that it is insufficient to examine herself in the morning, what is your reasoning? Evidently, you say that when she removed her hand from examining herself perhaps she saw blood and is impure. If so, what difference is it to me if she performed the examination indicating her transition from ritual impurity to ritual purity on the seventh day from minḥa time onward, and what difference is it to me if she performed the examination indicating her transition from ritual impurity to ritual purity on the first day of her counting?
עַכְשָׁיו אֵימַר: עִם סִלּוּק יָדֶיהָ רָאֲתָה? מָה לִי הִפְרִישָׁה בְּטָהֳרָה בַּשְּׁבִיעִי מִן הַמִּנְחָה וּלְמַעְלָה, מָה לִי הִפְרִישָׁה בְּטָהֳרָה בָּרִאשׁוֹן.
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : The Gemara asks: Why do the Rabbis mention an examination on the first day of her counting? Is there one who said that if a woman examines herself only on the first day that is sufficient?
בָּרִאשׁוֹן — מִי אִיכָּא לְמַאן דְּאָמַר?
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : The Gemara answers: Yes, there is such an opinion, as it is taught in a baraita that Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi says: I asked Rabbi Yosei and Rabbi Shimon the following question when they were walking on the road: With regard to a menstruating woman who examined herself on the seventh day in the morning and found herself to be ritually pure, but at twilight she did not perform the examination indicating her transition from ritual impurity to ritual purity, and after several days she examined herself and found herself to be ritually impure, what is the halakha?
אִין, וְהָתַנְיָא: אָמַר רַבִּי: שָׁאַלְתִּי אֶת רַבִּי יוֹסֵי וְרַבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן כְּשֶׁהָיוּ מְהַלְּכִים בַּדֶּרֶךְ: נִדָּה שֶׁבָּדְקָה עַצְמָהּ יוֹם שְׁבִיעִי שַׁחֲרִית וּמָצְאָה טְהוֹרָה, וּבֵין הַשְּׁמָשׁוֹת לֹא הִפְרִישָׁה, וּלְאַחַר הַיָּמִים בָּדְקָה וּמָצְאָה טְמֵאָה — מַהוּ?
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : Rabbi Yosei and Rabbi Shimon said to him: She has a presumptive status of ritual purity up until the moment that she discovered that she was impure. Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi asked them additional questions: If she examined herself on the sixth day, or the fifth day, or the fourth day, or the third day, or even the second day, what is the halakha? Rabbi Yosei and Rabbi Shimon said to him: The halakha is no different. In all of these cases she has a presumptive status of ritual purity until she discovers that she is impure.
אָמְרוּ לִו: הֲרֵי זוֹ בְּחֶזְקַת טׇהֳרָה. שִׁשִּׁי, חֲמִישִׁי, רְבִיעִי, שְׁלִישִׁי, שֵׁנִי — מַאי? אָמְרוּ לִו: לָא שְׁנָא.