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83b

Étude de Menachot 83b

Étude de la Mishna & Guémara 83b

Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : what does he make of it, i.e., what does he derive from it? He requires it for that which was stated by Rav Naḥman, as Rav Naḥman says that Rabba bar Avuh says: From where is it derived that a leftover Paschal offering, an animal consecrated but not ultimately sacrificed on Passover eve, is sacrificed as a peace offering afterward? It is derived from that which is stated: “And you shall sacrifice the Passover offering unto the Lord, your God, of the flock and the herd.” The verse is difficult: But isn’t a Paschal offering brought only from the sheep and from the goats? Rather, it is derived from here that a leftover Paschal offering should be sacrificed as an offering brought both from the flock and from the herd, i.e., a peace offering.
מַאי עָבֵיד לֵיהּ? מִבְּעֵי לֵיהּ לְכִדְרַב נַחְמָן, דְּאָמַר רַב נַחְמָן אָמַר רַבָּה בַּר אֲבוּהּ: מִנַּיִן לְמוֹתַר הַפֶּסַח שֶׁקָּרֵב שְׁלָמִים? שֶׁנֶּאֱמַר: ״וְזָבַחְתָּ פֶּסַח לַה׳ אֱלֹהֶיךָ צֹאן וּבָקָר״, וַהֲלֹא אֵין פֶּסַח בָּא אֶלָּא מִן הַכְּבָשִׂים וּמִן הָעִזִּים! אֶלָּא מוֹתַר הַפֶּסַח יְהֵא לְדָבָר הַבָּא מִן הַצֹּאן וּמִן הַבָּקָר.
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : The Gemara asks: But is it derived from here that a leftover Paschal offering is sacrificed as a peace offering? It is derived from the verse that Shmuel’s father cites: As it is written: “And if his offering for a sacrifice of peace offerings to the Lord is of the flock” (Leviticus 3:6); and Shmuel’s father said: This teaches that an offering that is brought only from the flock, i.e., the Paschal offering, will be a sacrifice of peace offerings.
וְהָא מֵהָכָא נָפְקָא? מִדַּאֲבוּהּ דִּשְׁמוּאֵל נָפְקָא, דִּכְתִיב: ״אִם מִן הַצֹּאן קׇרְבָּנוֹ לְזֶבַח שְׁלָמִים״, וְאָמַר אֲבוּהּ דִּשְׁמוּאֵל: דָּבָר הַבָּא מִן הַצֹּאן יְהֵא לְזֶבַח שְׁלָמִים.
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : But still it must be asked: Is it derived from here? It is derived from there, from the verse cited in the following baraita. And isn’t it taught in a baraita: Even though the verse already states that peace offerings come from the flock, as it is written: “And if his offering for a sacrifice of peace offerings to the Lord be of the flock, male or female, he shall sacrifice it without blemish” (Leviticus 3:6), the verse goes on to specify: “If he bring a lamb for his offering…and if his offering be a goat” (Leviticus 3:7–12). The word “lamb” is written to include the Paschal offering in the requirement that the fat tail be sacrificed on the altar, which is written subsequently with regard to a peace offering (Leviticus 3:9), since this halakha is not mentioned in the verses concerning the Paschal offering.
וְאַכַּתִּי מֵהָכָא נָפְקָא? מֵהָתָם נָפְקָא! וְהָתַנְיָא: ״כֶּבֶשׂ״ – לְרַבּוֹת אֶת הַפֶּסַח לְאַלְיָה.
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : The baraita continues: When the verse states: “If he brings a lamb,” it is to include in all the mitzvot of peace offerings a Paschal offering whose first year has passed and is therefore too old to be sacrificed as a Paschal offering, and peace offerings brought due to a Paschal offering. Specifically, this indicates that they require placing hands on the head of the offering, libations, and the waving of the breast and thigh.
כְּשֶׁהוּא אוֹמֵר: ״אִם כֶּבֶשׂ״ – לְהָבִיא פֶּסַח שֶׁעָבְרָה שְׁנָתוֹ, וּשְׁלָמִים הַבָּאִים מֵחֲמַת פֶּסַח, לְכׇל מִצְוַת שְׁלָמִים: שֶׁיִּטְעֲנוּ סְמִיכָה, וּנְסָכִים, וּתְנוּפַת חָזֶה וָשׁוֹק.
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : And when the verse states: “And if his offering is a goat,” it interrupted the previous matter and taught that the sacrifice of a goat does not require that the fat tail be burned on the altar. In any event, the verse indicates that a Paschal offering that was disqualified as such because it has reached its second year, i.e., the leftover of a Paschal offering, is sacrificed as a peace offering. It may therefore be asked: Why are there three verses to indicate this one halakha?
כְּשֶׁהוּא אוֹמֵר ״וְאִם עֵז״ – הִפְסִיק הָעִנְיָן, לִימֵּד עַל הָעֵז שֶׁאֵינָהּ טְעוּנָה אַלְיָה.
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : Rather, none of these derivations are superfluous, as three verses are written that teach the halakha that a Paschal offering that is sacrificed not on Passover eve is sacrificed as a peace offering. One verse teaches this halakha in a case where its time of sacrifice, Passover eve, has passed, and its first year has also passed, disqualifying it for sacrifice as a Paschal offering. And one verse teaches the halakha in a case where its time of sacrifice has passed, but not its first year. And the third one teaches a case where neither its time of sacrifice nor its first year has passed, but it was sacrificed before Passover eve.
תְּלָתָא קְרָאֵי כְּתִיב: חַד לְעִבְּרָה זְמַנּוֹ וְעִבְּרָה שְׁנָתוֹ, וְחַד לְעִבְּרָה זְמַנּוֹ וְלֹא עִבְּרָה שְׁנָתוֹ, וְחַד לְלֹא עִבְּרָה זְמַנּוֹ וְלֹא עִבְּרָה שְׁנָתוֹ.
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : And all these verses are necessary. As had the Merciful One written only the case where both its first year and its time of sacrifice have passed, one could say that only such a Paschal offering should be sacrificed as a peace offering, as it was completely rejected from its status as a Paschal offering; but in a case where its time of sacrifice has passed but its first year has not passed, in which case it is still fit to be sacrificed as a Paschal offering on the second Pesaḥ, I would say that it is not sacrificed as a peace offering.
וּצְרִיכִי, דְּאִי אַשְׁמְעִינַן עִבְּרָה זְמַנּוֹ וְעִבְּרָה שְׁנָתוֹ, מִשּׁוּם דְּאִידְּחִי לֵיהּ לִגְמָרֵי, אֲבָל עִבְּרָה זְמַנּוֹ וְלֹא עִבְּרָה שְׁנָתוֹ, דַּחֲזֵי לְפֶסַח שֵׁנִי, אֵימָא לָא.
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : And if the Torah had taught us only that a leftover Paschal offering whose time has passed but whose year has not passed is sacrificed as a peace offering, one might think that this is because the Paschal offering was rejected from the first Pesaḥ; but in a case where neither its time of sacrifice nor its first year have passed, in which case it is still fit to be sacrificed as a Paschal offering on Passover eve, I would say that it is not sacrificed as a peace offering. Therefore, all three verses are necessary.
וְאִי אַשְׁמְעִינַן עִבְּרָה זְמַנּוֹ וְלֹא עִבְּרָה שְׁנָתוֹ, דְּאִידְּחִי לֵיהּ מִפֶּסַח רִאשׁוֹן, אֲבָל לֹא עִבְּרָה זְמַנּוֹ וְלֹא עִבְּרָה שְׁנָתוֹ, דַּאֲפִילּוּ לְפֶסַח רִאשׁוֹן נָמֵי חֲזֵי, אֵימָא לָא, צְרִיכָא.
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) :
הֲדַרַן עֲלָךְ הַתּוֹדָה הָיְתָה בָּאָה.
Mishna 1
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : MISHNA: All communal and individual meal offerings may come from produce grown in Eretz Yisrael and from outside Eretz Yisrael, from the new crop, i.e., the current year’s crop, and from the old crop from previous years. This is the halakha of all meal offerings except for the omer, i.e., the measure of barley brought as a communal offering on the sixteenth of Nisan, and the two loaves, i.e., the communal offering brought on the festival of Shavuot, as they come only from the new crop and from Eretz Yisrael.
מַתְנִי׳ כׇּל קׇרְבְּנוֹת הַצִּיבּוּר וְהַיָּחִיד בָּאִין מִן הָאָרֶץ וּמֵחוּצָה לָאָרֶץ, מִן הֶחָדָשׁ וּמִן הַיָּשָׁן, חוּץ מִן הָעוֹמֶר וּשְׁתֵּי הַלֶּחֶם, שֶׁאֵינָן בָּאִין אֶלָּא מִן הֶחָדָשׁ וּמִן הָאָרֶץ.(משנה)
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : And all meal offerings come only from the optimal-quality grain. And which places have the optimal grain for them? Fields in Makhnis and Zateḥa are the primary [alfa] source for fine flour. Secondary to them is Aforayim in the valley.
וְכוּלָּן אֵינָן בָּאִין אֶלָּא מִן הַמּוּבְחָר, וְאֵיזֶהוּ מוּבְחָר שֶׁלָּהֶם? (מִכְנֵיס וְזַטְחָא) [מִכְמָס וְזוֹנֵחָא] – אַלְפָּא לַסֹּלֶת, שְׁנִיָּיה לָהֶן – עֲפוֹרַיִים בַּבִּקְעָה.
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : All the regions were valid as the source of the grain, but it is from here, the primary and secondary places, that they would bring grain, because it was of optimal quality.
כׇּל הָאֲרָצוֹת הָיוּ כְּשֵׁרוֹת, אֶלָּא מִכָּאן הָיוּ מְבִיאִין.
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