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Traité Kiddushin

5b

Étude de Kiddushin 5b

Étude de la Guémara 5b

Guémara
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : is it not logical that a wedding canopy, which completes the marriage, since it entirely removes a young woman from her father’s authority, can effect acquisition for betrothal on its own? The Gemara rejects this claim: What is unique about money is that it can effect acquisition in many contexts, as one can redeem with it consecrated property and second tithe. This is not so with regard to a wedding canopy, which is ineffective in effecting any acquisition other than marriage. Therefore, in the case of betrothal, money can effect betrothal while a wedding canopy cannot. The Gemara counters: The halakha of sexual intercourse proves otherwise, as this act serves to effect acquisition of a woman despite the fact that it is not a valid mode of acquisition in any other case.
חוּפָּה שֶׁגּוֹמֶרֶת – אֵינוֹ דִּין שֶׁתִּקְנֶה? מָה לְכֶסֶף, שֶׁכֵּן פּוֹדִין בּוֹ הֶקְדֵּשׁוֹת וּמַעֲשֵׂר שֵׁנִי. בִּיאָה תּוֹכִיחַ.
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : The Gemara counters: What is unique about sexual intercourse is that it effects acquisition of a yevama, whereas a yavam does not acquire her via a wedding canopy. The Gemara answers: Money proves otherwise, as money cannot be used to acquire a yevama, and yet it is a valid mode for acquiring a woman. And the derivation has reverted to its starting point: The aspect of this mode, money, is not like the aspect of that mode, intercourse, and the aspect of that mode, intercourse, is not like the aspect of this mode, money. Their common denominator is that they generally effect acquisition, and they effect acquisition here, with regard to betrothal. Likewise, I will bring the mode of a wedding canopy, which generally effects acquisition, rendering a woman as married, and therefore it should also effect acquisition here.
מָה לְבִיאָה, שֶׁכֵּן קוֹנָה בִּיבָמָה. כֶּסֶף יוֹכִיחַ. וְחָזַר הַדִּין: לֹא רְאִי זֶה כִרְאִי זֶה, וְלֹא רְאִי זֶה כִּרְאִי זֶה, הַצַּד הַשָּׁוֶה שֶׁבָּהֶן: שֶׁקּוֹנִין בְּעָלְמָא וְקוֹנִין כָּאן, אַף אֲנִי אָבִיא חוּפָּה שֶׁקּוֹנָה בְּעָלְמָא, וְקוֹנָה כָּאן.
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : The Gemara rejects this: What about the fact that the common denominator of money and intercourse is that their benefit, i.e., pleasure, is great? The Gemara says: The case of a document proves otherwise, as no great pleasure is derived from receiving a document, and yet it can be used to acquire a woman. The Gemara answers: What is unique about a document is that it can release a Jewish woman from her husband in the form of a bill of divorce. The Gemara answers: Money and intercourse prove otherwise, as they do not release a woman and yet they are valid modes of acquisition for betrothal.
מָה לְצַד הַשָּׁוֶה שֶׁבָּהֶן, שֶׁכֵּן הֲנָאָתָן מְרוּבָּה. שְׁטָר יוֹכִיחַ. מָה לִשְׁטָר, שֶׁכֵּן מוֹצִיא בְּבַת יִשְׂרָאֵל. כֶּסֶף וּבִיאָה יוֹכִיחוּ.
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : And once again, the derivation has reverted to its starting point: The aspect of this mode is not like the aspect of that mode, and the aspect of that mode is not like the aspect of this mode. Their common denominator is that they generally effect acquisition and they effect acquisition here, with regard to betrothal. Likewise, I will bring the mode of a wedding canopy, which generally effects acquisition, and therefore it should also effect acquisition here.
וְחָזַר הַדִּין: לֹא רְאִי זֶה כִּרְאִי זֶה, וְלֹא רְאִי זֶה כִּרְאִי זֶה, הַצַּד הַשָּׁוֶה שֶׁבָּהֶן: שֶׁקּוֹנִין בְּעָלְמָא וְקוֹנִין כָּאן – אַף אֲנִי אָבִיא חוּפָּה, שֶׁקּוֹנָה בְּעָלְמָא וְקוֹנָה כָּאן.
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : The Gemara again rejects this claim: What about the fact that the common denominator of all three modes of acquisition is that they are effective in certain situations against her will? A bill of divorce, sexual intercourse in the case of a yevama, and money with regard to a Hebrew maidservant all effect acquisition of a woman against her will. Therefore, the mode of a wedding canopy cannot be derived from these methods, as a wedding canopy is effective only when the woman enters it willingly. And in response to this claim Rav Huna would answer: In any event, with regard to marriage, we have not found a case in which a woman can be acquired through money against her will. Consequently, it is possible to learn from the modes of money, a document, and intercourse that a wedding canopy likewise effects betrothal.
מָה לְהַצַּד הַשָּׁוֶה שֶׁבָּהֶן, שֶׁכֵּן יֶשְׁנָן בְּעַל כׇּרְחָהּ. וְרַב הוּנָא – כֶּסֶף מִיהָא בְּאִישׁוּת לָא אַשְׁכְּחַן בְּעַל כׇּרְחָהּ.
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : Rava said: There are two refutations of this matter, i.e., it is possible to refute Rav Huna’s opinion in two ways. One opinion is that we learned in the mishna that a woman can be acquired through three modes of acquisition, and we did not learn that there are four modes. This indicates that there are no other ways to acquire a woman apart from the three listed in the mishna.
אָמַר רָבָא: שְׁתֵּי תְשׁוּבוֹת בַּדָּבָר. חֲדָא, דְּ״שָׁלֹשׁ״ תְּנַן וְ״אַרְבַּע״ לָא תְּנַן.
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : And furthermore, Rava disagrees with the main point of the proof, which was based on the fact that a wedding canopy completes a marriage: Doesn’t entering a wedding canopy complete a marriage only by means of an act of betrothal, which precedes the wedding canopy? And can one derive that entering a wedding canopy effects acquisition without betrothal from the case of entering a wedding canopy that effects acquisition by means of betrothal? Consequently, entering a wedding canopy alone cannot effect a betrothal.
וְעוֹד: כְּלוּם חוּפָּה גּוֹמֶרֶת אֶלָּא עַל יְדֵי קִידּוּשִׁין, וְכִי גָּמְרִינַן חוּפָּה שֶׁלֹּא עַל יְדֵי קִידּוּשִׁין מֵחוּפָּה שֶׁעַל יְדֵי קִידּוּשִׁין?
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : Abaye said to Rava in response to his two claims: With regard to that which you said, that we learned in the mishna three modes and we did not learn that there are four modes, this is no proof, as the tanna teaches only a matter that is explicitly written in the Torah, and does not teach a matter that is not explicitly written in the Torah, such as a wedding canopy.
אֲמַר לֵיהּ אַבָּיֵי: הָא דְּקָאָמְרַתְּ ״שָׁלֹשׁ״ תְּנַן וְ״אַרְבַּע״ לָא תְּנַן – תַּנָּא מִילְּתָא דִּכְתִיבָא בְּהֶדְיָא קָתָנֵי, מִילְּתָא דְּלָא כְּתִיבָא בְּהֶדְיָא לָא קָתָנֵי.
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : And with regard to that which you said: Doesn’t entering a wedding canopy complete a marriage only by means of an act of betrothal, this is also what Rav Huna is saying, i.e., Rav Huna incorporates this claim into his reasoning: If money, which does not complete a marriage after money, i.e., after a woman has been betrothed through money an additional monetary gift cannot render her a fully married woman, effects acquisition of the woman in the form of betrothal, is it not logical that entering a wedding canopy, which is more powerful than money in that it completes a marriage after money, should effect acquisition and be used to perform betrothal by itself?
וּדְקָאָמְרַתְּ ״כְּלוּם חוּפָּה גּוֹמֶרֶת אֶלָּא עַל יְדֵי קִידּוּשִׁין״ – רַב הוּנָא נָמֵי הָכִי קָאָמַר: וּמָה כֶּסֶף שֶׁאֵינוֹ גּוֹמֵר אַחַר כֶּסֶף – קוֹנֶה, חוּפָּה שֶׁגּוֹמֶרֶת אַחַר כֶּסֶף – אֵינוֹ דִּין שֶׁתִּקְנֶה?
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : § After discussing the sources for the modes of acquisition listed in the mishna, the Gemara analyzes these halakhot in greater detail. The Sages taught in a baraita (Tosefta 1:1): How is betrothal performed through money? If a man gave a woman money or an item worth money, and he said to her: You are hereby betrothed [mekuddeshet] to me, or: You are hereby betrothed [me’oreset] to me, or: You are to me as a wife, then she is betrothed. But if she is the one who gave the money to him, and she said: I am hereby betrothed [mekuddeshet] to you, or: I am hereby betrothed [me’oreset] to you, or: I am hereby to you as a wife, then she is not betrothed.
תָּנוּ רַבָּנַן: כֵּיצַד בְּכֶסֶף? נָתַן לָהּ כֶּסֶף אוֹ שָׁוֶה כֶּסֶף, וְאָמַר לָהּ: ״הֲרֵי אַתְּ מְקוּדֶּשֶׁת לִי״, ״הֲרֵי אַתְּ מְאוֹרֶסֶת לִי״, ״הֲרֵי אַתְּ לִי לְאִינְתּוּ״ – הֲרֵי זוֹ מְקוּדֶּשֶׁת. אֲבָל הִיא שֶׁנָּתְנָה, וְאָמְרָה הִיא: ״הֲרֵינִי מְקוּדֶּשֶׁת לְךָ״, ״הֲרֵינִי מְאוֹרֶסֶת לְךָ״, ״הֲרֵינִי לְךָ לְאִינְתּוּ״ – אֵינָהּ מְקוּדֶּשֶׁת.
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : Rav Pappa objects to this: This baraita contains an internal contradiction. The first part of the baraita states: If a man gave a woman money and said to her: You are hereby betrothed to me, from which it may be inferred that the reason the woman is betrothed is that he gave her money and he said the appropriate formula. This leads to the conclusion that if he gave her money and she said the formula, she is not betrothed. Now say the latter clause of the baraita: But if she is the one who gave the money to him, and she said: I am hereby betrothed to you, then it is not a valid betrothal. Rav Pappa infers: The reason that it is not a valid betrothal is that she gave money to him and she said the appropriate formula, from which it may be inferred that if he gave money to her and she said the appropriate formula, then this is a valid betrothal.
מַתְקֵיף לַהּ רַב פָּפָּא: טַעְמָא דְּנָתַן הוּא וְאָמַר הוּא, הָא נָתַן הוּא וְאָמְרָה הִיא – אֵינָהּ מְקוּדֶּשֶׁת. אֵימָא סֵיפָא: אֲבָל הִיא שֶׁנָּתְנָה לוֹ וְאָמְרָה הִיא – לָא הָווּ קִידּוּשִׁין. טַעְמָא דְּנָתְנָה הִיא וְאָמְרָה הִיא, הָא נָתַן הוּא וְאָמְרָה הִיא – הָווּ קִידּוּשִׁין!
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : The Gemara explains: The first clause of the baraita is exact, and therefore it is correct to infer that which was not explicitly stated from this ruling. By contrast, the latter clause of the baraita was cited for no reason, i.e., it was simply formulated in the opposite manner of the first clause, and the baraita is not exact in the wording of this case. Therefore, one should not analyze this clause too carefully and infer halakhot from it. The Gemara asks: And would the baraita teach in the latter clause a matter that contradicts the first clause?
רֵישָׁא דַּוְקָא, סֵיפָא כְּדִי נַסְבַהּ. וְתָנֵי סֵיפָא מִילְּתָא דְּסָתְרָא לַהּ לְרֵישָׁא?
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