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Traité Gittin

76b

Étude de Gittin 76b

Étude de la Mishna & Guémara 76b

Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : or whether she is not divorced.
וְאֵינָהּ מְגוֹרֶשֶׁת!
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : Abaye said: It may be that Antipatris is in Judea and Kefar Otnai is in the Galilee. The mishna can be explained as follows: The husband was saying a statement including two conditions to her: If I arrive in the Galilee then this will be a bill of divorce immediately, or if I will tarry on the way for thirty days and I do not come back home, this will be a valid bill of divorce. If he reached Antipatris and returned within thirty days, as he did not arrive in the Galilee and he also did not tarry for thirty days, then his condition is void and his wife is not divorced.
אָמַר אַבָּיֵי, תְּרֵי תְּנָאֵי קָאָמַר לַהּ: אִי מָטֵינָא לְגָלִיל – לְאַלְתַּר לֶיהֱוֵי גִּיטָּא, וְאִי מִשְׁתַּהֵינָא בְּאוֹרְחָא תְּלָתִין יוֹמִין וְלָא אָתֵינָא – לֶיהֱוֵי גִּיטָּא. הִגִּיעַ לְאַנְטִיפְרַס וְחָזַר – דְּלָא לְגָלִיל מְטָא, וְלָא אִישְׁתַּהוֹיֵי נָמֵי אִשְׁתַּהִי תְּלָתִין יוֹמִין – בָּטֵל תְּנָאוֹ.
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : The continuation of the mishna taught: This is your bill of divorce if I do not come back from now until the conclusion of thirty days. The Gemara asks: Is this to say that Akko is in a country overseas, and is not considered part of Eretz Yisrael? But didn’t Rav Safra say: When the Sages would take leave from one another before departing Eretz Yisrael, they would take their leave in Akko, because it is prohibited to leave from Eretz Yisrael to go outside of Eretz Yisrael? This indicates that Akko is within Eretz Yisrael.
״הֲרֵי זֶה גִּיטִּיךְ אִם לֹא בָּאתִי מִכָּאן וְעַד שְׁלֹשִׁים יוֹם״ כּוּ׳: לְמֵימְרָא דְּעַכּוֹ בִּמְדִינַת הַיָּם קָיְימָא?! וְהָא אָמַר רַב סָפְרָא: כִּי הֲווֹ מִיפַּטְרִי רַבָּנַן מֵהֲדָדֵי – בְּעַכּוֹ הֲווֹ מִפַּטְרִי, מִשּׁוּם דְּאָסוּר לָצֵאת מֵאָרֶץ לְחוּצָה לָאָרֶץ!
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : Abaye said: The husband was saying a statement including two conditions to her: If I arrive in a country overseas, then this will be a valid bill of divorce immediately, or if I tarry thirty days on the way and I do not come back home, this will be a valid bill of divorce. If he reached Akko and returned, as he did not reach a country overseas and he also did not tarry for thirty days, his condition is void and his wife is not divorced.
אָמַר אַבָּיֵי, תְּרֵי תְּנָאֵי קָאָמַר לַהּ: אִי מָטֵינָא לִמְדִינַת הַיָּם – לְאַלְתַּר לֶיהֱוֵי גִּיטָּא, אִי מִשְׁתַּהֵינָא בְּאוֹרְחָא תְּלָתִין יוֹמִין וְלָא אָתֵינָא – לֶיהֱוֵי גִּיטָּא. הִגִּיעַ לְעַכּוֹ וְחָזַר – דְּלָא לִמְדִינַת הַיָּם מְטָא, וְלָא אִישְׁתַּהוֹיֵי נָמֵי אִשְׁתַּהִי תְּלָתִין יוֹמִין – בָּטֵל תְּנָאוֹ.
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : § The continuation of the mishna states: If a husband said to his wife: This is your bill of divorce if at any time I will depart from your presence for thirty consecutive days, then even if he was continually going and coming, going and coming, since he was not secluded with her during these thirty days this is a valid bill of divorce. The Gemara challenges: But did he not pass from her presence during this time, as he was going and coming the entire time? Rav Huna said: What is the meaning of the term your presence in this context? It means sexual intercourse. His actual condition was that if he will not engage in sexual intercourse with her for thirty days then the bill of divorce will be valid. And why does he call sexual intercourse your presence? He employed a euphemistic expression when he made his condition.
״הֲרֵי זֶה גִּיטִּיךְ כׇּל זְמַן שֶׁאֶעֱבוֹר״ וְכוּ׳: וְהָא לָא עֲבַר! אָמַר רַב הוּנָא: מַאי ״פָּנַיִךְ״ – תַּשְׁמִישׁ; וְאַמַּאי קָרֵי לֵיהּ ״פָּנַיִךְ״ – לִישָּׁנָא מְעַלְּיָא נָקֵט.
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : And Rabbi Yoḥanan disagreed and said: Actually, the husband means literally: Your presence, i.e., that he would not be in his wife’s presence for thirty consecutive days. Is the mishna teaching that she is divorced immediately? No, it is teaching only that this is a valid bill of divorce. This means that although the condition was not fulfilled during these thirty days, since he was not secluded with her this is not considered to be an outdated bill of divorce, which the Sages said may not be used for divorce. And when, at some point in the future, the thirty days during which he does pass from her presence are fulfilled, this will be a valid bill of divorce.
וְרַבִּי יוֹחָנָן אָמַר: לְעוֹלָם ״פָּנַיִךְ״ מַמָּשׁ. מִי קָתָנֵי ״הֲרֵי זוֹ מְגוֹרֶשֶׁת״? ״הֲרֵי זֶה גֵּט״ קָתָנֵי – דְּלָא הָוֵי גֵּט יָשָׁן, וּלְכִי מָלוּ תְּלָתִין יוֹמֵי הָוֵי גִּיטָּא.
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : The Gemara comments that it is taught in a baraita (Tosefta 7:10) in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Yoḥanan: If one says to his wife: This is your bill of divorce if at any time I will depart from your presence for thirty consecutive days, and he was going and coming, going and coming for the entire thirty days, since he was not secluded with her during that time, this is a valid bill of divorce. And one is not concerned that it is now considered an outdated bill of divorce, because he was not secluded with her.
תַּנְיָא כְּווֹתֵיהּ דְּרַבִּי יוֹחָנָן: ״הֲרֵי זֶה גִּיטִּיךְ כׇּל זְמַן שֶׁאֶעֱבוֹר מִנֶּגֶד פָּנַיִךְ שְׁלֹשִׁים יוֹם״, וְהָיָה הוֹלֵךְ וּבָא, הוֹלֵךְ וּבָא; הוֹאִיל וְלֹא נִתְיַיחֵד עִמָּהּ – הֲרֵי זֶה גֵּט; וּלְגֵט יָשָׁן אֵין חוֹשְׁשִׁין, שֶׁהֲרֵי לֹא נִתְיַיחֵד עִמָּהּ.
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : The Gemara asks: But let there be a concern that perhaps he appeased his wife during this time that he was going and coming, and he was secluded with her. Rabba bar Rav Huna said: So said my father, my teacher, Rav Huna, in the name of Rav: The baraita is referring to a situation where the husband says: She is deemed credible by me to say that I did not come. Since the husband states explicitly that he believes her about this, if she said that he was not secluded with her then the bill of divorce remains valid.
וְלֵיחוּשׁ שֶׁמָּא פִּיֵּיס! אָמַר רַבָּה בַּר רַב הוּנָא: הָכִי אָמַר אַבָּא מָרִי מִשְּׁמֵיהּ דְּרַב, בְּאוֹמֵר: נֶאֱמֶנֶת עָלַי לוֹמַר שֶׁלֹּא בָּאתִי.
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : There are those who teach this statement of Rav Huna in the name of Rav with regard to the mishna mentioned later on, which says that if the husband said to his wife: This is your bill of divorce from now if I do not come back from now until the conclusion of twelve months, and he died within twelve months, this is a valid bill of divorce. The Gemara asks: But let there be a concern that perhaps he appeased his wife during this time and was secluded with her. Rabba bar Rav Huna said: So said my father, my teacher, Rav Huna, in the name of Rav: The mishna is referring to a situation where the husband says: She is deemed credible by me to say that I did not come, and he did not appease her.
אִיכָּא דְּמַתְנֵי לַהּ אַמַּתְנִיתִין: ״מֵעַכְשָׁיו אִם לֹא בָּאתִי מִכָּאן וְעַד שְׁנֵים עָשָׂר חֹדֶשׁ״, וּמֵת בְּתוֹךְ שְׁנֵים עָשָׂר חֹדֶשׁ – הֲרֵי זֶה גֵּט. וְלֵיחוּשׁ שֶׁמָּא פִּיֵּיס! אָמַר רַבָּה בַּר רַב הוּנָא: הָכִי אָמַר אַבָּא מָרִי מִשְּׁמֵיהּ דְּרַב, בְּאוֹמֵר: נֶאֱמֶנֶת עָלַי לוֹמַר שֶׁלֹּא בָּאתִי.
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : The Gemara comments: Concerning the one who taught that statement of Rav Huna in the name of Rav with regard to the mishna, all the more so would he teach this statement with regard to the baraita. Since he was constantly going and coming, the bill of divorce would be valid only if the husband stated that he trusts his wife to say that she was not secluded with him.
מַאן דְּמַתְנֵי לַהּ אַמַּתְנִיתִין, כׇּל שֶׁכֵּן אַבָּרַיְיתָא.
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : Concerning the one who taught this statement with regard to the baraita, it is possible that he taught this only with regard to the baraita, but with regard to the mishna, this is not the case, as he did not come back home within twelve months, but rather died. Therefore, even if he did not specify that he trusts his wife to say whether or not they were secluded, there is no concern that perhaps he was secluded with her without anyone knowing about it.
מַאן דְּמַתְנֵי לַהּ אַבָּרַיְיתָא – אֲבָל אַמַּתְנִיתִין, הָא לָא אֲתָא.
Mishna 1
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : MISHNA: If a husband says to his wife: This is your bill of divorce if I do not come back from now until the conclusion of twelve months, and he died within twelve months, it is not a valid bill of divorce. This is because the bill of divorce cannot take effect after the husband’s death. As a result, she is bound by a levirate bond if her husband has no children.
מַתְנִי׳ ״הֲרֵי זֶה גִּיטִּךְ, אִם לֹא בָּאתִי מִכָּאן וְעַד שְׁנֵים עָשָׂר חֹדֶשׁ״, וּמֵת בְּתוֹךְ שְׁנֵים עָשָׂר חֹדֶשׁ – אֵינוֹ גֵּט.(משנה)
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