AccueilÉtudeTanakhBibliothèqueSujetsParachaDivrei TorahRabbanimSagesHistoireÀ proposMes favorisFaire un don
Retour

Traité Gittin

30a

Étude de Gittin 30a

Étude de la Mishna & Guémara 30a

Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : When the court appoints a second agent, must they do so in the presence of the first agent, or may it be when not in his presence? He then resolves it: The second agent may be appointed either in his presence or not in his presence. Similarly, they sent from there, from Eretz Yisrael, this ruling: The court may appoint another agent either in the presence of the first agent or not in his presence.
כִּי מְשַׁוּוּ בֵּית דִּין שָׁלִיחַ; בְּפָנָיו, אוֹ שֶׁלֹּא בְּפָנָיו? הֲדַר פַּשְׁטַהּ: בֵּין בְּפָנָיו בֵּין שֶׁלֹּא בְּפָנָיו. שְׁלַחוּ מִתָּם: בֵּין בְּפָנָיו בֵּין שֶׁלֹּא בְּפָנָיו.
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : § The Gemara relates another incident, involving a certain man who said to the agents with whom he entrusted a bill of divorce: If I do not arrive from now until thirty days have passed, let this be a bill of divorce. He came at the end of the thirtieth day, but he was prevented from crossing the river by the fact that the ferry was located on the other side of the river, so he did not cross the river within the designated time. He said to the people across the river: See that I have arrived, see that I have arrived. Shmuel said: That is not considered to be an arrival, even though it is clear that he intended to arrive, so the bill of divorce is valid.
הָהוּא דַּאֲמַר: אִי לָא אָתֵינָא עַד תְּלָתִין יוֹמִין – לֶיהֱוֵי גִּיטָּא. אֲתָא וּפַסְקֵיהּ מַבָּרָא. אֲמַר לְהוּ: ״חֲזוֹ דַּאֲתַאי״, ״חֲזוֹ דַּאֲתַאי״. אֲמַר שְׁמוּאֵל: לָא שְׁמֵיהּ מַתְיָא.
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : The Gemara relates: There was an incident involving a certain man who said to agents with whom he had deposited a bill of divorce: If I do not appease my wife within thirty days, let this be a bill of divorce. He went to appease her, but she was not appeased. Rav Yosef said: Did he give her a large vessel [tarkeva] full of dinars but she was not appeased? Although his inability to appease her was a result of his lack of financial means, since he did not properly fulfill his condition to appease her, the bill of divorce is valid.
הָהוּא דַּאֲמַר לְהוּ: אִי לָא [מְ]פַיֵּיסְנָא לַהּ עַד תְּלָתִין יוֹמִין – לֶיהֱוֵי גִּיטָּא. אֲזַל פַּיְּיסַהּ, וְלָא אִיפַּיַּיסָא. אָמַר רַב יוֹסֵף: מִי יְהַב לַהּ תַּרְקַבָּא דְּדִינָרֵי וְלָא אִיפַּיַּיסָא?!
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : There are those who say a different version of the statement, that Rav Yosef said: Did he need to give her a vessel full of dinars in order to appease her? This is a situation where he attempted to appease her, but she was not appeased. Therefore, he did fulfill his condition, and the bill of divorce is not effective, as it is not his fault that she was not appeased.
אִיכָּא דְּאָמְרִי, אָמַר רַב יוֹסֵף: מִידֵּי תַּרְקַבָּא דְּדִינָרֵי בָּעֵי לְמִיתַּב לַהּ?! הָא פַּיְּיסַהּ, וְלָא אִיפַּיַּיסָא.
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : The Gemara explains the difference between the first and second versions of Rav Yosef’s statement: This second version, in which the bill of divorce does not take effect, is according to the one who says: Circumstances beyond one’s control have legal standing with regard to bills of divorce. Therefore, the bill of divorce is not valid, as the husband did all he could to appease her. This first version, in which the bill of divorce is valid, is according to the one who says: Circumstances beyond one’s control have no legal standing with regard to bills of divorce.
הָא – כְּמַאן דְּאָמַר יֵשׁ אוֹנֶס בְּגִיטִּין, הָא – כְּמַאן דְּאָמַר אֵין אוֹנֶס בְּגִיטִּין.
Mishna 1
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : MISHNA: The mishna continues the discussion of the presumption that a person remains alive. With regard to one who lends money to a priest, or to a Levite, or to a poor person, with the understanding that he will separate their portion of the teruma and tithes from his produce on the basis of that money, i.e., he will subtract from the debt owed by the priest or Levite the value of the teruma and tithes separated from the produce, he may separate the teruma and tithes from his produce on the basis of that money with the presumption that they are still alive, and he need not be concerned that perhaps the priest or the Levite died in the interim, or that the poor person became rich and is no longer eligible to be given the poor man’s tithe. The priest or Levite benefits from this arrangement, as he receives his gifts up front in the form of a loan. The Israelite benefits in that he does not need to seek out a priest or Levite each time he has produce from which he must separate teruma and tithes.
מַתְנִי׳ הַמַּלְוֶה מָעוֹת אֶת הַכֹּהֵן וְאֶת הַלֵּוִי וְאֶת הֶעָנִי, לִהְיוֹת מַפְרִישׁ עֲלֵיהֶן מֵחֶלְקָן; מַפְרִישׁ עֲלֵיהֶן בְּחֶזְקַת שֶׁהֵן קַיָּימִין, וְאֵינוֹ חוֹשֵׁשׁ שֶׁמָּא מֵת הַכֹּהֵן אוֹ הַלֵּוִי, אוֹ הֶעֱשִׁיר הֶעָנִי.(משנה)
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : If in fact they died, then he must obtain permission from the heirs in order to continue the arrangement. However, if he lent money to the deceased, and he stipulated in the presence of the court that the debt would be repaid in this manner, then he does not need to obtain permission from the heirs.
מֵתוּ – צָרִיךְ לִיטּוֹל רְשׁוּת מִן הַיּוֹרְשִׁים; אִם הִלְווֹן בִּפְנֵי בֵּית דִּין – אֵינוֹ צָרִיךְ לִיטּוֹל רְשׁוּת מִן הַיּוֹרְשִׁין.
Guémara
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : GEMARA: The mishna assumes that the priest, Levite, and poor person acquire the teruma and tithes that the creditor separates from his produce, but they agree at the time of the loan that the tithes and teruma will then be acquired by the creditor as payment of their debt. The Gemara asks: And can the priest, Levite, and poor person transfer possession of the terumot or tithes back to the creditor even though the produce did not come into their possession?
גְּמָ׳ וְאַף עַל גַּב דְּלָא אָתוּ לִידֵיהּ?!
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : Rav says: This is stated with regard to associates of the priesthood and the Levites, i.e., people who have an arrangement with a specific priest or Levite to give him their teruma or tithes. The specific priest or Levite therefore has a presumptive status of ownership of the tithes or teruma and is considered to have acquired them. And Shmuel says: This is stated with regard to one who has the priest or Levite acquire the gifts through the act of acquisition of others, who acquire the teruma and tithes on their behalf. The lender is then able to reclaim the gifts as repayment of the loan. Ulla said: In accordance with whose opinion is this mishna? It is the opinion of Rabbi Yosei, who says in other contexts: The Sages, by means of an ordinance, rendered one who does not acquire like one who acquires. Here, too, the Sages instituted an ordinance to enable this arrangement.
אָמַר רַב: בְּמַכָּרֵי כְּהוּנָּה וּלְוִיָּה. וּשְׁמוּאֵל אָמַר: בִּמְזַכֶּה לָהֶם עַל יְדֵי אֲחֵרִים. עוּלָּא אָמַר: הָא מַנִּי – רַבִּי יוֹסֵי הִיא, דְּאָמַר: עָשׂוּ אֶת שֶׁאֵינוֹ זוֹכֶה כְּזוֹכֶה.
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : The Gemara explains why each of the aforementioned Sages disagreed with the others. All the other Sages, i.e., Shmuel and Ulla, do not state their opinions in accordance with the opinion of Rav, because the mishna does not teach explicitly that the halakha is stated with regard to associates of the priesthood and the Levites. Rav and Ulla do not state their opinions in accordance with the opinion of Shmuel because the mishna does not teach that this halakha is stated with regard to one who has the priest or Levite acquire the gifts through the act of acquisition of others. Rav and Shmuel also do not state their opinions in accordance with the opinion of Ulla because we do not establish the mishna to be stated in accordance with an individual opinion, in this case Rabbi Yosei; rather, the assumption is that the ruling of the mishna is written in accordance with the majority opinion.
כּוּלְּהוּ כְּרַב לָא אָמְרִי – בְּמַכָּרֵי לָא קָתָנֵי. כִּשְׁמוּאֵל לָא קָאָמְרִי – בִּמְזַכֶּה לָא קָתָנֵי. כְּעוּלָּא נָמֵי לָא אָמְרִי – כִּיחִידָאָה לָא מוֹקְמִינַן.
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : § The Sages taught in a baraita (Tosefta 3:1): With regard to one who lends money to a priest, or to a Levite, or to a poor person with the understanding that he will separate their portion of the teruma and tithes from his produce on the basis of that money, he may separate the teruma and tithes from his produce on the basis of that money, with the presumption that they are still alive.
תָּנוּ רַבָּנַן: הַמַּלְוֶה מָעוֹת אֶת הַכֹּהֵן וְאֶת הַלֵּוִי וְאֶת הֶעָנִי, לִהְיוֹת מַפְרִישׁ עֲלֵיהֶן מֵחֶלְקָן, מַפְרִישׁ עֲלֵיהֶן בְּחֶזְקַת שֶׁהֵן קַיָּימִין;
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : The baraita continues: And he may contract with them according to the low market rate, i.e., he may set a price for the gifts that he will separate in the future based on either their value at the time of the loan, or their value when they will be separated, whichever is lower. And this is not subject to the prohibition of interest, meaning that if the market rate falls, it will not be considered as though they are repaying in excess of the amount of the loan. And the Sabbatical Year does not cancel this loan; even after the Sabbatical Year, the lender may continue to collect his debt in this manner.
וּפוֹסֵק עִמָּהֶן כְּשַׁעַר הַזּוֹל; וְאֵין בּוֹ מִשּׁוּם רִבִּית; וְאֵין שְׁבִיעִית מְשַׁמַּטְתּוֹ;
Gittin 30a
100%
גיטין ל׳ אמַסֶּכֶת גִּיטִּין