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Traité Bava Metzia

51a

Étude de Bava Metzia 51a

Étude de la Mishna & Guémara 51a

Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : it is due to this reason that they reverted to following the statement of the Rabbis, as the sellers were in any event able to renege at any point, while Rabbi Tarfon extended the period during which the buyers could renege on the transaction.
מִשּׁוּם הָכִי חָזְרוּ.
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : But if you say that the legal status of a seller is also limited like that of a buyer in terms of the period of time during which he may renege, what difference is there to the merchants? Just as the Sages instituted an ordinance on behalf of a buyer enabling him to renege on the transaction, so too, the Sages instituted an ordinance on behalf of a seller. If the time afforded to the seller is equal to the time afforded to the buyer, the fact that Rabbi Tarfon extended this time would not be a reason for the merchants to revert to following the opinion of the Rabbis, as there is a benefit and a loss for the merchants according to both opinions.
אֶלָּא אִי אָמְרַתְּ מוֹכֵר נָמֵי כְּלוֹקֵחַ דָּמֵי, מַאי נָפְקָא לְהוּ מִינַּהּ? כִּי הֵיכִי דְּעָבְדִי לַיהּ רַבָּנַן תַּקַּנְתָּא לְלוֹקֵחַ, הָכִי נָמֵי עָבְדִי לַיהּ רַבָּנַן תַּקַּנְתָּא לְמוֹכֵר!
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : The Gemara answers: With regard to the merchants of Lod, it is rare for them to err, and therefore they preferred limiting the period during which the buyer could renege over extending the period during which they themselves could renege.
תַּגָּרֵי לוֹד לָא שְׁכִיחַ דְּטָעוּ.
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : The Gemara relates: The landlord of Rami bar Ḥama sold a donkey and erred in fixing its price. Rami bar Ḥama encountered him and noticed that he was sad. Rami bar Ḥama said to him: Why are you sad? The landlord said to him: I sold a donkey and I erred in fixing its price. Rami bar Ḥama said to him: Go and renege on the transaction. The landlord said to him: I have waited more than the period of time that it takes for me to show the merchandise to a merchant or to my relative. Rami bar Ḥama sent the landlord before Rav Naḥman for a ruling and Rav Naḥman said to him: The Sages taught this halakha only with regard to a buyer, but a seller may always renege on a transaction.
אוּשְׁפִּיזְכָנֵיהּ דְּרָמֵי בַּר חָמָא זַבֵּין חֲמָרָא וּטְעָה. אַשְׁכְּחֵיהּ דַּהֲוָה עֲצִיב, אֲמַר לֵיהּ: אַמַּאי עֲצִיבַתְּ? אֲמַר לֵיהּ: זַבֵּינִי חֲמָרָא וּטְעַאי. אֲמַר לֵיהּ: זִיל הֲדַר בָּךְ. אָמַר לֵיהּ: הָא שְׁהַאי לִי יוֹתֵר מִכְּדֵי שֶׁאַרְאֶה לַתַּגָּר אוֹ לִקְרוֹבִי! שַׁדְּרֵיהּ לְקַמֵּיהּ דְּרַב נַחְמָן, אֲמַר לֵיהּ לֹא שָׁנוּ אֶלָּא לוֹקֵחַ, אֲבָל מוֹכֵר – לְעוֹלָם חוֹזֵר.
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : The Gemara asks: What is the reason for this? The Gemara explains: A buyer has his merchandise in his possession; therefore, anywhere that he goes he shows it to those familiar with the market price and they tell him whether he erred or whether he did not err. A seller, who does not have his merchandise in his possession, can ascertain the market price only when merchandise like his merchandise happens to come before him, and only then will he know whether he erred or whether he did not err.
מַאי טַעְמָא? לוֹקֵחַ מִקָּחוֹ בְּיָדוֹ, כֹּל הֵיכָא דְּאָזֵיל מַחְוִי לֵיהּ וְאָמְרִי לֵיהּ אִי טְעָה, אִי לָא טְעָה. מוֹכֵר דְּלָא נָקֵט מִקָּחֵיהּ בִּידֵיהּ עַד דְּמִיתְרְמֵי לֵיהּ זְבִינְתָּא כִּזְבִינְתֵּיהּ, וְיָדַע אִי טְעָה וְאִי לָא טְעָה.
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : § The Gemara relates: There was a certain man who had silk strips [varshekhei] to sell. He announced that he was selling them for six ma’a, and they were worth five ma’a, and if they would give him five and a half ma’a, he would take it and sell the silk. This man, i.e., a potential buyer, came and said to himself: If I give him five and a half ma’a, it is a case of a waiver, and I will not be entitled to recover the difference. I will give him six ma’a and claim from him by law the return of the sum gained by the exploitation. He did so. The case came before Rava, who said to him: The Sages taught this halakha of exploitation only with regard to one who buys merchandise from a merchant, but one who buys merchandise from a regular homeowner does not have a claim of exploitation against him.
הָהוּא גַּבְרָא דַּהֲוָה נָקֵט וַרְשְׁכֵי לְזַבּוֹנֵי, קָרֵי שִׁיתָּא וְשָׁוְיָא חַמְשָׁא, וְאִי הֲווֹ יָהֲבִי לֵיהּ חַמְשָׁא וּפַלְגָא הֲוָה שָׁקֵיל. אֲתָא הָהוּא גַּבְרָא וְאָמַר: אִי יָהֵיבְנָא לֵיהּ חַמְשָׁא וּפַלְגָא הָוְיָא מְחִילָה. אֶתֵּן לֵיהּ שִׁיתָּא וְאֶתְבְּעֵיהּ לְדִינָא. אֲתָא לְקַמֵּיהּ דְּרָבָא, אֲמַר לֵיהּ: לֹא שָׁנוּ אֶלָּא בְּלוֹקֵחַ מִן הַתַּגָּר, אֲבָל בְּלוֹקֵחַ מִבַּעַל הַבַּיִת – אֵין לוֹ עָלָיו אוֹנָאָה.
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : The Gemara relates a similar incident: There was a certain man who was holding jewelry to sell. He announced that he was selling it for sixty ma’a, and it was worth fifty ma’a, and if they would give him fifty-five ma’a, he would take it and sell the jewels. This man, i.e., a potential buyer, came and said to himself: If I give him fifty-five ma’a, it is a case of a waiver, and I will not be entitled to recover the difference. I will give him sixty ma’a and claim from him by law the return of the sum gained by the exploitation. He did so. The case came before Rav Ḥisda, who said to him: The Sages taught this halakha of exploitation only with regard to one who buys merchandise from a merchant, but one who buys merchandise from a regular homeowner does not have a claim of exploitation against him.
הָהוּא גַּבְרָא דַּהֲוָה נָקֵיט כִּיפֵּי לְזַבּוֹנֵי קָרֵי שִׁתִּין וְשָׁוֵי חַמְשִׁין, וְאִי הֲווֹ יָהֲבִי לֵיהּ חַמְשִׁין וְחַמְשָׁא הֲוָה שָׁקֵיל. אֲתָא הָהוּא גַּבְרָא וְאָמַר: אִי יָהֵיבְנָא לֵיהּ חַמְשִׁין וְחַמְשָׁא הָוְיָא מְחִילָה, אֶתֵּן לֵיהּ שִׁיתִּין וְאֶתְבְּעֵיהּ לְדִינָא. אֲתָא לְקַמֵּיהּ דְּרַב חִסְדָּא. אֲמַר לֵיהּ: לֹא שָׁנוּ אֶלָּא בְּלוֹקֵחַ מִן הַתַּגָּר, אֲבָל בְּלוֹקֵחַ מִן בַּעַל הַבַּיִת – אֵין לוֹ עָלָיו אוֹנָאָה.
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : Rav Dimi said to Rav Ḥisda: The ruling is correct. And likewise, Rabbi Elazar said: The ruling is correct. The Gemara asks: But didn’t we learn in the mishna that follows: Just as the halakhot of exploitation apply to a layman [lahedyot], so do the halakhot of exploitation apply to a merchant? Who is the layman to whom the mishna is referring? Is he not a regular homeowner as opposed to a merchant? Rav Ḥisda said: That mishna is referring to simple linen garments [tzadriyyata], which the homeowner crafts expressly for sale. But with regard to vessels and garments designed for the personal use of a homeowner, which are important to him, he sells them only to receive extra money, as people are generally hesitant to part with their belongings. Therefore, when purchasing an item from a homeowner, a buyer must consider the likelihood that his asking price is greater than the item’s actual worth.
אֲמַר לֵיהּ רַב דִּימִי: יִשַׁר. וְכֵן אָמַר רַבִּי אֶלְעָזָר: יִשַׁר. וְהָא אֲנַן תְּנַן: כְּשֵׁם שֶׁאוֹנָאָה לְהֶדְיוֹט כָּךְ אוֹנָאָה לַתַּגָּר. מַאן הֶדְיוֹט, לָאו בַּעַל הַבַּיִת? אָמַר רַב חִסְדָּא: בְּצַדְרְיָיתָא. אֲבָל מָאנֵי תַשְׁמִישְׁתֵּיהּ, דְּיַקִּירִי עֲלֵיהּ, לָא מְזַבֵּין לְהוּ אִי לָאו בִּדְמֵי יַתִּירֵי.
Mishna 1
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : MISHNA: Both the buyer and the seller are subject to the halakhot of exploitation. Just as the halakhot of exploitation apply to a layman, so do the halakhot of exploitation apply to a merchant. Rabbi Yehuda says: There is no exploitation for a merchant, as he is an expert in the market price of merchandise. The one upon whom the exploitation was imposed has the advantage. If he wishes, he can say to the other: Give me back my money and nullify the transaction, or he can say: Give me back the sum that you gained by exploiting me.
מַתְנִי׳ אֶחָד הַלּוֹקֵחַ וְאֶחָד הַמּוֹכֵר יֵשׁ לָהֶן אוֹנָאָה. כְּשֵׁם שֶׁאוֹנָאָה לַהֶדְיוֹט כָּךְ אוֹנָאָה לַתַּגָּר. רַבִּי יְהוּדָה אוֹמֵר: אֵין אוֹנָאָה לַתַּגָּר. מִי שֶׁהוּטַּל עָלָיו – יָדוֹ עַל הָעֶלְיוֹנָה, רָצָה אוֹמֵר לוֹ: תֵּן לִי מְעוֹתַי, אוֹ תֵּן לִי מַה שֶּׁאֹנֵיתַנִי.(משנה)
Guémara
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : GEMARA: The Gemara asks: From where are these matters derived, that both the buyer and the seller are subject to the halakha of exploitation? As the Sages taught concerning the verse: “And if you sell to your colleague an item that is sold, or acquire from your colleague’s hand, you shall not exploit his brother” (Leviticus 25:14). I have derived only a case where a buyer was exploited. From where do I derive that the halakha is the same in a case where the seller was exploited? The same verse states: “Or acquire from your colleague’s hand, you shall not exploit his brother.”
גְּמָ׳ מְנָהָנֵי מִילֵּי? דְּתָנוּ רַבָּנַן: ״וְכִי תִמְכְּרוּ מִמְכָּר לַעֲמִיתֶךָ ... אַל תּוֹנוּ״ – אֵין לִי אֶלָּא שֶׁנִּתְאַנָּה לוֹקֵחַ, נִתְאַנָּה מוֹכֵר מִנַּיִן? תַּלְמוּד לוֹמַר: ״אוֹ קָנֹה ... אַל תּוֹנוּ״.
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : The Gemara comments: And it was necessary to write the prohibition against exploitation with regard to a buyer, and it was necessary to write the prohibition against exploitation with regard to a seller. As, had the Merciful One written this prohibition only with regard to a seller, one would conclude that it is prohibited for him because he is certain of the value of his merchandise, but with regard to a buyer, who is not certain of the value of the seller’s merchandise, say that the Merciful One did not render it prohibited for him to engage in exploitation with the verse “You shall not exploit.”
וְאִיצְטְרִיךְ לְמִכְתַּב לוֹקֵחַ וְאִיצְטְרִיךְ לְמִכְתַּב מוֹכֵר, דְּאִי כְּתַב רַחֲמָנָא מוֹכֵר – מִשּׁוּם דְּקִים לֵיהּ בִּזְבִינְתֵּיהּ, אֲבָל לוֹקֵחַ – דְּלָא קִים לֵיהּ בִּזְבִינְתֵּיהּ, אֵימָא לָא אַזְהֲרֵיהּ רַחֲמָנָא בְּ״לֹא תּוֹנוּ״.
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : And had the Merciful One written this prohibition only with regard to a buyer, one would conclude that it is prohibited for him because he acquires the item and he benefits from his purchase, as people say: If you purchased an item, you acquired a durable item for yourself. But with regard to a seller, who loses from the sale, as people say: One who sells an item loses, say that the Merciful One did not render it prohibited for him to engage in exploitation with the verse “You shall not exploit.” Therefore, it was necessary for the Torah to write this prohibition with regard to both parties to the transaction.
וְאִי כְּתַב רַחֲמָנָא לוֹקֵחַ – מִשּׁוּם דְּקָא קָנֵי, דְּאָמְרִי אִינָשֵׁי: זְבַנְתְּ קְנֵית. אֲבָל מוֹכֵר דְּאֹבוֹדֵי קָא מוֹבֵיד, דְּאָמְרִי אִינָשֵׁי: זַבֵּין אוֹבֵיד, אֵימָא לָא אַזְהֲרֵיהּ רַחֲמָנָא בְּ״לֹא תּוֹנוּ״, צְרִיכָא.
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