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Traité Bava Metzia

12b

Étude de Bava Metzia 12b

Étude de la Mishna & Guémara 12b

Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : The Sages instituted an ordinance rendering a son of the sharecropper, who does not have the right to acquire property, like one who has the right to acquire property; i.e., they granted him a special right to acquire the gleanings. What is the reason for this ordinance? This arrangement is satisfactory for the poor people themselves, so that when they are hired under similar terms themselves, their sons will be able to glean the stalks after them.
עָשׂוּ שֶׁאֵינוֹ זוֹכֶה כְּזוֹכֶה, מַאי טַעְמָא – עֲנִיִּים גּוּפַיְיהוּ נִיחָא לְהוּ, כִּי הֵיכִי דְּכִי אָגְרוּ לְדִידְהוּ נִלְקוֹט בְּנַיְיהוּ בָּתְרַיְיהוּ.
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : The Gemara comments: And Shmuel, in his above explanation of the mishna, disagrees with the opinion of Rabbi Ḥiyya bar Abba. As Rabbi Ḥiyya bar Abba says that Rabbi Yoḥanan says: The word adult in the mishna is not referring to an actual adult, and the word minor is not referring to an actual minor. Rather, with regard to an adult son who is dependent on the food of his father’s table for support, this is considered a minor in the context of the mishna. It is appropriate for one who is reliant on his father’s support to give items that he finds to his father. And with regard to a minor son who is not dependent on the food of his father’s table for support, this is considered an adult in this context, and any lost item that he finds is his.
וּפְלִיגָא דְּרַבִּי חִיָּיא בַּר אַבָּא. דְּאָמַר רַבִּי חִיָּיא בַּר אַבָּא אָמַר רַבִּי יוֹחָנָן: לֹא גָּדוֹל – גָּדוֹל מַמָּשׁ, וְלֹא קָטָן – קָטָן מַמָּשׁ, אֶלָּא גָּדוֹל וְסָמוּךְ עַל שֻׁלְחָן אָבִיו – זֶהוּ קָטָן. קָטָן וְאֵינוֹ סָמוּךְ עַל שֻׁלְחָן אָבִיו – זֶהוּ גָּדוֹל.
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : § The mishna teaches: The found item of his Hebrew slave or maidservant, it is theirs. The Gemara asks: Why does it not belong to the master? Let the slave be considered merely a laborer; and it is taught in a baraita: The found item of a laborer, i.e., a lost item that he found, belongs to him and not to his employer. In what case is this statement, that the item belongs to the laborer, said? It is said when the employer told the laborer to perform a specific task, e.g., he said to him: Weed for me today, or: Till for me today. Since the employer specified the task that he hired the laborer to perform, and that task did not include finding lost items, the laborer has rights to the item that he himself found.
מְצִיאַת עַבְדּוֹ וְשִׁפְחָתוֹ הָעִבְרִים הֲרֵי הוּא שֶׁל עַצְמָן. אַמַּאי לֹא יְהֵא אֶלָּא פּוֹעֵל? וְתַנְיָא: מְצִיאַת פּוֹעֵל לְעַצְמוֹ. בַּמֶּה דְּבָרִים אֲמוּרִים – בִּזְמַן שֶׁאָמַר לוֹ: ״נַכֵּשׁ עִמִּי הַיּוֹם״, ״עֲדוֹר עַמִּי הַיּוֹם״.
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : The baraita continues: But if the employer said to the laborer: Work for me today, without specifying the nature of the work, the found item is the employer’s, as finding ownerless items is included within the general category of work. Since a Hebrew slave is duty-bound to perform all types of labor for his master, why doesn’t his master acquire all items that he finds?
אֲבָל אָמַר לוֹ ״עֲשֵׂה עִמִּי מְלָאכָה הַיּוֹם״ – מְצִיאָתוֹ לְבַעַל הַבַּיִת.
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : Rabbi Ḥiyya bar Abba said that Rabbi Yoḥanan said: Here we are dealing with a slave who pierces pearls [margaliyyot], which is such a profitable activity that his master would not want to transfer him to another line of work even for a moment. Therefore his status is like that of a laborer who is hired to perform a specific task.
אָמַר רַבִּי חִיָּיא בַּר אַבָּא אָמַר רַבִּי יוֹחָנָן: הָכָא בְּעֶבֶד נוֹקֵב מַרְגָּלִיּוֹת עָסְקִינַן, שֶׁאֵין רַבּוֹ רוֹצֶה לְשַׁנּוֹתוֹ לִמְלָאכָה אַחֶרֶת.
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : Rava said: We are dealing with a case where the slave lifts a found item along with performing his work. Since there is no need for him to interrupt his work in order to take the item, his taking the item costs his master nothing, so it belongs to the slave.
רָבָא אָמַר: בְּמַגְבִּיהַּ מְצִיאָה עִם מְלַאכְתּוֹ עָסְקִינַן.
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : Rav Pappa said: An item found by a laborer belongs to his employer only in a case where he hired him specifically to collect found items. The Gemara asks: But what are the circumstances in which one would hire a person to find ownerless items? The Gemara answers: It is in a case where a lake flooded its shore with fish, and after the water receded, the fish remained on the shore. One would hire laborers to gather those fish.
רַב פָּפָּא אָמַר: כְּגוֹן שֶׁשְּׂכָרוֹ לְלַקֵּט מְצִיאוֹת. וְהֵיכִי דָּמֵי? דְּאַקְּפַי אַגְמָא בִּכְווֹרֵי.
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : § The mishna teaches that an item found by a Hebrew maidservant belongs to her. The Gemara asks: What are the circumstances of this maidservant? If the reference is to a maidservant who has grown two pubic hairs, which is a sign of adulthood, why is she with her master? A Hebrew maidservant who reaches adulthood is emancipated.
הַאי שִׁפְחָה הֵיכִי דָמֵי? אִי דְּאַיְיתַי שְׁתֵּי שְׂעָרוֹת, מַאי בָּעֲיָא גַּבֵּיהּ?
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : And if she is a maidservant who has not yet grown two pubic hairs and is still considered a minor, then if her father is still alive, the found item is her father’s, and if her father is not still alive, she should have gone free with the death of her father.
וְאִי דְּלָא אַיְיתַי שְׁתֵּי שְׂעָרוֹת, אִי אִיתֵיהּ לְאָב – דַּאֲבוּהּ הָוְיָא! וְאִי דְּלֵיתֵיהּ לָאָב – תִּיפּוֹק בְּמִיתַת הָאָב.
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : As Reish Lakish says: A Hebrew maidservant acquires herself from the authority of her master through the death of her father, and this halakha is derived from an a fortiori inference: Signs indicating puberty release her from her master’s authority but do not release her from her father’s authority, as although she shows signs indicating puberty she remains under her father’s authority with regard to certain matters. Therefore, is it not logical that her father’s death, which releases her entirely from the father’s authority, would release her from the authority of her master? Clearly, there is no situation where a Hebrew maidservant can acquire an item that she finds. The Gemara answers: But wasn’t the opinion of Reish Lakish conclusively refuted? It is not accepted as halakha.
דְּאָמַר רֵישׁ לָקִישׁ: אָמָה הָעִבְרִיָּה קֹנָה עַצְמָהּ בְּמִיתַת הָאָב מֵרְשׁוּת הָאָדוֹן מִקַּל וָחוֹמֶר. וְלָאו אִיתּוֹתַב רֵישׁ לָקִישׁ?
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : The Gemara suggests: Let us say that there is a conclusive refutation of his opinion from this mishna as well. If a Hebrew maidservant is emancipated once her father dies, there is no possible situation in which a Hebrew maidservant who finds an ownerless item acquires it for herself.
נֵימָא מֵהַאי נָמֵי תֶּיהְוֵי תְּיוּבְתָּא!
Traduction française en préparation — version anglaise (Steinsaltz) : The Gemara rejects this suggestion: This mishna is not a refutation of Reish Lakish’s opinion, as perhaps it is actually referring to a case where the father is alive. And what is the meaning of the phrase: They are theirs? It does not mean that the item belongs to the maidservant; rather it is stated in order to exclude the possibility that it belongs to her master. The maidservant acquires the found item, and through her, her father acquires it.
לָא, לְעוֹלָם דְּאִיתֵיהּ לְאָב, וּמַאי ״הֲרֵי הֵן שֶׁלָּהֶן״ – לְאַפּוֹקֵי דְּרַבָּה.
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